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Valeri in SoCal's avatar

Compare these two situations:

When my husband went to the hospital emergency room because he had symptoms he could not ignore and felt horrid. The doctor examined him and ran tests. Conclusion: my husband’s appendix had to be removed. My husband was prepped for surgery and his appendix was promptly removed. (He’s fine.)

When a pregnant woman goes to the hospital emergency room with blood running down her legs, she is told to fill a diaper and wait. There is no medical reason for her to wait. The doctors are well qualified and know she needs to safely end her pregnancy, now, but the state law threatens to prosecute them and take away their license to practice if they follow standard medical procedures. So they wait. If her water breaks well before the fetus can survive outside the womb, she is denied appropriate medical care, because laws have been enacted to pacify extremists who say they hold “a sincere belief” and “want to protect the voiceless unborn”. So she is denied medical care because she isn’t close enough to death to receive treatment and keep the doctor out of prison. (I don’t blame the doctor.) If she becomes septic (develops blood poisoning, which can come on quickly and kill you), her doctors might be allowed to safely end her pregnancy by performing an abortion. But there is no guarantee she can receive medical care even then, because extremists say they want to ban ALL abortions — they self-describe as “pro-life” and simultaneously are willing to let pregnant women suffer, risk permanent impairment, and death. The fetus is never going to survive, but their law makes it impossible to treat the woman. She is expendable — like a bus, another one will be along if this one passes.

If the woman becomes septic and she is permitted an abortion, it’s likely her recovery will take longer than if she received care promptly, like my husband did, so her medical expenses will be a ton higher and she will miss work longer. She will be lucky if she doesn’t die.

Let’s be clear, In both cases, no baby was going to survive. My husband was never going to deliver a baby. Full stop. The woman who miscarried had a dead or dying fetus. Not only wasn’t the fetus going to survive, but it had become a potential threat to the health and life of the woman who hosted it. So neither would deliver a viable baby. But my husband’s doctor was allowed to assess the patient and provide appropriate medical care. The woman’s doctor had to defer to the judgment of lawmakers who never met the woman and had passed laws which ignore the advice of medical experts who told lawmakers the laws endangered the life of all pregnant women.

The Republican lawmakers didn’t care then and — having heard the horror stories we all hear — they don’t care now (or they would fix it).

My husband was not told he would have to travel to another state to have his appendix removed.

My husband was not told the doctor on duty had a sincere religious belief which prevented him from treating my husband.

My husband was not told his wife must sign a consent form to allow him to have an appendectomy.

My husband was not read a script asking him to consider keeping his appendix or giving it to others as some states would require for the woman — she must have her “options” read to her before she has an abortion. Even though literally no one will adopt a dead baby, she must be read a script, the law requires it, no exceptions. (Is the situation not desperate enough for this woman? She has just been told the baby she wants cannot survive and now she’s told to consider keeping it or adoption?

My husband was not forced to view an ultrasound to see his diseased appendix.

My husband was not told to go home and come back later because the law denied him treatment until his life was threatened.

My husband wasn’t told he’d need to wait until his appendix burst to receive medical care.

What cruel assholes would pass such laws? The majority of lawmakers who put these laws on the books are old white male Republicans. Find them here:

https://profile.theguardian.com/oauth2/aus3xgj525jYQRowl417/v1/authorize?client_id=0oaseo1znCJ7c8LNx416&scope=openid%20profile%20email%20guardian.identity-api.cookies.create.self.secure%20guardian.members-data-api.read.self%20guardian.identity-api.newsletters.read.self%20guardian.identity-api.newsletters.update.self%20offline_access&response_type=code&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fprofile.theguardian.com%2Foauth%2Fauthorization-code%2Fcallback&prompt=none&state=851c8da3f0c1241de6d52d4a5515448b

If extremists get their way, doctors won’t be trained to perform an abortion and the ones that already know what to do and use their knowledge to save a pregnant woman’s life will be sent to prison. Some would also send the women to prison.

Who took away women’s reproductive rights and made our lives expendable? We all know it was Republicans and they’re not done. They want to stop access to contraception, eliminate no-fault divorce, ban same-sex marriage, and further erode voting rights. If they have the votes they will do all of that and impose a national ban on abortion.

Donald Trump brags about appointing Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe that brought us to this point. Who made this mess? Donald Trump did this.

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Liz's avatar

Doesn’t matter. The maga sheep will devour whatever sheep food is shoved down their gullets by dear leader.

There’s no bringing them back to reality, which is why I don’t debate them anymore. Including the maga rubes in my family. It’s exhausting to continue to debate my humanity with people who think the earth is flat.

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